Are you familiar with this cartridge? BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. Next. Is yours that picky? Specifically, I am looking at 300 PRC and .28 Nolser, or 300 Weatherby Magnum. can you give me your thoughts on I verified it with factory ammo, Guaranteed 1 MOA accuracy, but probably beats that, Guaranteed 1 MOA. Again one star better than average in this category, but it still leaves plenty of room for improvement. Its one of the best 3 out of 8 rifles we tested in this price range. Will be used for 100-500 yd plinking and occasional deer hunting. Swelled and checkered grip areas are molded into both sides of the stock over the internal magazine and again at the beginning of the forearm section. I can be an affiliate for just about any gun brand, so it doesnt impact my recommendations. I enjoy watching your videos but havent found any with this specific manufacture. Have you ever made a review of the Schultz & Larsen rifle? It's my 1st long-bolt (actually 2nd, I'd had Win 70 Ultimate Shadow 338 win mag. Hes not huge. excellent trigger. I would love to hear you critique rifle makers that offer nothing left handed in their main lines. Frankly, I just dont see the value in the Werkman. Also would be cool to see you do a semi-custom rifle (Bighorn action, prefit barrel, Ag composites stock, trigger tech, etc.) Now they are North of $400. superbly accurate with federal non-typical 150s (second load i tried). Ill update the post. I used to not care about if the bolt locked on safe but after a walk in the woods of ND with a Ruger American and the bolt falling out, to not be recovered on the opener, I now only have guns that lock the bolt on safe. However, Ruger American rifles are not perfect. The torque settings have to be exact and should use friction paper in the bottom rings. Im a lefty that has to shoot cross over right handed bolts. Any tips on bullet weight and powder brand? No doubt, it has s lot to offer. The trigger however appears to be decent and I like the one piece bolt but I think the internal magazine is a deal breaker for me. Thats a nice collection. Ive shot it twice and didnt like it either time. Seems that they manage to work loose occasionally. Jim, I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? Problem with the Savage 110 ultralight is the plastic magazine. Im sure a video review by you would certainly help clarify and perhaps sway my views on the Sauer 100s. I know I have expediencies it. Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. Probably going to be the Waypoint. Id be interested in seeing a review of the q fix. But after that, its likely going to be a custom. The stock feels like it is created of a very tough polymer. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. Any of you guys have any experience with the Burris signature scopes? Love your content man, great job building the channel and the webpage. then Sure, its the same action and barrel, but its dressed up completely differently, and I think it changes the gun significantly. Indeed, the Momentums bolt only travels 60 degrees from fully open to fully locked and vice-versa, whereas your typical 2-lug job requires a 90-degree throw. These are deal breakers. I was about to buy a Christenson Arms rifle but you and a few others have commented about the quality. The gun feels good in hand and the trigger feels great. I am looking for a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action hunting rifle for our place in north central west Texas. Have you had a chance to look over or review the Savage Impulse? Im well aware that there is stiff competition in the semi-custom rifle category. It shoots as well as some of my full blown custom rifles I have thousands invested in. First available in 1936 for Petes sake. I havent tried the Rage yet, but I have used that same action and stock in different configurations. My main criteria is staying sub 6 lbs if I can for the rifle only and sub moa guarantee. Id love to hear your thoughts on a modern option like the Extreme Weather SS MB. PS. Ive been a little coy about recommending one specific rifle in this price range because its a tight race. Im giving the Momentum an extra star above average for the polished, fluted bolt and all the checkered ergonomic areas on the stock that fancy it up a bit. Your email address will not be published. Jim, would love to hear some feedback on Cooper firearms if you have any input? They need to get their stuff together first. Nearly every touch-point Ive had with the company shows obvious signs of errors. NO, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Italy, F Franchi, and Baretta and their ilk. hey jim i have a 2022 ridgeline in 308 it shoots 1/4 to 1/2 moa looked a long time and read many bad reviews butt talked to many people and am very happy with mine thanks. There really isnt much to complain about on a Bergara B-14. Its for my 3 teenage daughters (all first year deer tag draws) . Theres also the option of ordering that rifle with a Vortex Crossfire II scope on it. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. May 7, 2018. I dont think any mauser action rifles allow you to drop around in because of the claw extractor. I am between a Bergara B-14 Hunter and the Weatherby Vanguard. Hello I love your videos and your reviews the only comment I have is that the savage 110 ultralite does not have the accustock. So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? 2) the 6.5 prc vs the 7 prc ( i have 2 338 win mags i am planning on keeping for elk +), My thoughts? Optional Features TSA Recoil Pads TSA recoil pads for LOP adjustment. What do you think of the French after some time? My brother and another buddy bought one (223 and 22-250) because mine shot so well and they had similar results. I really wanted a 6.5 PRC for my first hunting rifle but with the ammo limitations Im probably going to get a 6.5 Creedmore instead. Would love to know your thoughts on the Seekins Precision Havak PH2 rifles. keep on the good work and excuse my poor englis. I have been eyeing the ruger go wild.I like the heavier barrel profile. If youre into Italian and youre into affordable, but you still want some Ferrari performance at the Fiat price, Franchis Momentum delivers the goods. The molded-in checkering is clean and sharp but in no way uncomfortable. If you just go in the store, they almost never seem to have any good chambering options. Weatherby also makes it in some non Weatherby calibers. Get one , in 30-06 for the purest experience , and youll be convinced ! Ruger precision is really heavy for hunting, but a cool rifle. Jim, Love your channel and have spent most likely 30 plus hours reviewing your videos. Have you heard any news about springfield adding additional calibers for it? Mostly hand carried, thick timber and hills in foul weather. Seems like the bergara barrel profile would be better for larger cartridges. The stock is cheesy feeling, but nicely shaped and rigid. I have been looking at the Browning BAR for years, its a great gun, but I would really like to have an AR format. $599.99. We watch all your videos on YouTube. Any opinions/guidance would be much appreciated! Weight: 6.6 pounds Its a 3-lug design with a decently large extractor and ejector and large locking lugs. I am about ready to purchase the Springfield Waypoint 2020 in 6.5 prc then, i see the Proof Elevation MTR is offered in a 7prc, as is the Rival in a 7prc Base Price: $816.99: Tax: - In Stock: Back in stock . You have my general answer, but below Ill provide more detail and reasoning for those selections, as well as some rifles not to pick. Im holding my breath for the comments section on this post. Thanks. Not much going on here, really, but its simple and it works. Keep up the good work! Ive got an old 700 that is a beautiful gun and was a great deal but Im taking the plastic stock Savage up in the tree this fall. One might think that in this price range, youd have a multitude of choices, but in my opinion, there are really only three hunting rifles Id consider. Ive seen your comments that fierce rifles have poor fit and finish and that customer service is also poor. But 300 WinMag doesnt fit in an AR15 and 6.5 Swede doesnt fit in a short action. I personally prefer the Bergara B-14 Ridge, but they are all good options. I have shot the Impulse and wasnt impressed. Thanks Jim Harmer, great video and data to follow. The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. I even bought one Mauser with a shot out barrel knowing it was shot out for $240 dollars complete with scope and had a local gunsmith rebarrel it for me and reblue the whole gun and I had only $600 in it. I am going to use the rifle for mainly whitetail deer hunting in Wisconsin but I occasionally like once every 5-10 years go out west and hunt pronghorn or elk and have recently tried to hunt moose in Alaska. Yes, even if my hunting situation means most shots will be shorter range, I want a rifle that will reach out and make a 250 or 350 yard shot accurately in case it needs to. It shoots some factory ammo sub moa as advertised but has been and uphill battle to get hand loaded 88grn eldm's to group consistent. I could go for a more grabby grip myself, but the Momentums checkering is certainly sufficient. Dont get me wrong. Keep up the good work. It is their lowest entry point to their rifles but looks interesting. The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. TOP DEALS View All Deals. I agree with you. Franchi Momentum .308 Win Threaded 22" Bbl Htr Gry BA Rifle 41533. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. I took it back to Scheels and the guys said its the second time someone has brought one back with that issue in a week. Their ammo is INSANELY expensive, so I wouldnt invest in a Weatherby chambering. I can stretch the budget to a Browning if I have to, but the Winchester XPR is more in my price range. Have you had any experience with the new fierce rage? So happy you out this together as it brings all of your work together and I hope you link to it. It is aggravating that the stock hugs the barrel on one side, but it doesnt contact on mine. I ended up buying a Bergara Mountain 2.0, which checked all the boxes for me as a hunting rifle. I appreciate the blunt honesty. $1,299.00. You have entered an incorrect email address! I am a big Fierce fan. With a century and a half of firearms manufacturing behind it, Italy's Franchi has unveiled its first-ever centrefire hunting rifle, the Momentum. The new Franchi Momentum is darn near an exact copy to the Ruger American. Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. Id prefer 7mm-08, but 6.5 is the newest kid on the block. Then you can go pick up in your local store in just a couple days and do the government paperwork and walk away with it. Still, its the 2020 Waypoint in my opinion. Id like to know how the Sandman suppressor performed. The Cross is great for 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC, but the stock just isnt suitable for heavy recoiling cartridges. I would also love a video on the Winchester model 70 extreme weather! Its an expensive gun but Ive been hearing good things. unloaded and 46.7 . funny, I was between the FME and the CVA cascade for a 350L. James I probably wouldnt recommend Fierce Firearms right now. Ive never shot one that couldnt achieve a 1 group at 100 yards. You mentioned the cheap filling stock. I want a lightweight rifle that has mild Recoil with ballistics similar to 270 Winchester but in a short action. Delsin Rowe is the main protagonist and playable character, a young Native-American man who later realizes hes a Conduit with special powers. Im sure the leupold would be better, but for a 700 dollar difference, Ill see how I like the Burris. Really enjoy reading your reviews and opinions! Weatherby Mark V Weatherby makes a fantastic rifle. Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, .308 Win, 277 Sig Fury. It has the accufit system but they did not put it in that rifle I assume its to save weight. Its like saying 300 Blackout isnt as effective as 300 WinMag. some of us realize we would be charged a certain premium. I went ahead and ordered a scope today, I had a leupold vx5 3x15 and sent it back, and today I ordered a Burris Signature HD 3x15, so I will see how they compare. Thank you for your time and effort. Just my two cents, but would love to hear an honest review of these rifles. I dont own one. How may races are there and is idiot one? The also Cerakote the barrel which lowers the need for oiling the metals on your gun, and protects it in rainy or otherwise wet conditions. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. I would love to hear your thoughts on the savage impulse big game. I came over the years to loath short action rifles. Jim love the reviews and the Channel. Its a good option for light cartridges, but the light weight and stock design dont make for a good match on heavy cartridges. $699.00. Thank you, October 15 2022 Christiansen Arms Traverse, 28 Nos. Bergara is intriguing, but I cant understand why its heavier. Like you I love the idea of the cerakote on it and I think a stiffer stock lends itself to shooters well. Great info on the ins and outs of shooting and the rifle reviews. The stock feels really cheesy. I dont say that lightly. Unless you spend 4-5 G on a custom built left handed. Pls recommend as I need a rifle under 1500 $ including Scope for shooting upto 600 Yards with cheaper ammo to practice more. I purchased a 280 AI in a Mark V Weatherby instead. Im considering a modern Win 70 as well. Have you fired the Sako 85 Finnlight? I did achieve the box numbers through hand loading and Magpro powder for the 170 Bergers and Staball 6.5 for the 129 lrx. Barrett, AI, etc. Can't see enough difference to make a difference. I\m looking for a good \all around\ big game hunting rifle (elk, whitetail/mule deer, and antelope mostly). Or is the lighter, cheaper, better looking cva more applicable? I am from Canada- and watching your channel for quite a time. You mentioned in your latest live video that youre off the Savage Ultralight these days. Any opinion on it? I have a slue of rifles in many calibers 22LR up to 338WM, except the 7mm mag. Also, since I\d prefer to keep it to one gun I was more interested in buying a semi-custom gun and was thinking about getting the Fierce Carbon Rogue. what makes it a Bergara? A fairly vertical pistol grip offers comfortable control from most any shooting position. Not sure what caliber you tested the bergara b14 ridge in but, I bought one from Scheels last year in 6.5 prc and it would scratch up the casings, and jam up on the last round. I really have enjoyed watching your YouTube channel and reading some of your articles on backfire! Along with the detail you put into your reviews of new ammo like the 6.5 and now 7 PRC. Good read. And dollar for dollar you could never purchase a rifle that guarantees you 1 moa back several years ago for the same relative cost. Great reviews, but nothing on the Browning AB3? XPR has a great barrel (mine was very accurate), free floated; pretty smooth bolt/action for price; same trigger as M70; permacote is durable; stock is better than most in price range. Unsurprisingly, the Momentum is equipped with a synthetic stock. threaded barrel w/muzzle brake. Great comment, Frank. Just easier to carry in hand, never a sling. So Id recommend just paying for it online. Sako has major problems with there stocks , I have owned several finnlight 85s and the stock will get sticky , Its not if its when , Sako will not do anything about this issue , They blame it on det in insect spray , I had one still in the box that got sticky and they didnt have an answer for that , You can read about this issue online its everywhere , Browning took care of this problem when they had this issue , I will never buy another sako for this reason , Do your research before buying one. (weight) Its that or the ruger American in 6.5. Combing the interwebs just now I see other reviews reporting groups from 0.40 to 2 MOA depending on caliber and ammunition brand/load. The scope hasnt moved for years now and I have shot it quite a bit. Franchi talks up the ergonomics of the Momentum big time on their website. The CVA Cascade is an exceptional rifle for the price. The sub-$500 version of the CVA Cascade comes with just blued steel. Surprisingly accurate. Thanks for any input. Franchi is known for making high-quality firearms at affordable prices, and the Momentum Elite is the perfect example of this. So I do still think they have some QC issues to deal with. Question. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category. Hey there Jim. Obscenely lightweight. Theres something cool coming. Its typically priced around $950, but for $100 extra dollars over the $850 budget, you get an adjustable mini chassis. Did you pick up the Seekins? With a typical retail price of $549, the Franchi Momentum is a lot of Italian hunting rifle for not a lot of cash. I owned one in .28 Nosler and it was a very poor choice for that heavy-recoiling of a cartridge. Just curious, have you had a chance to review the Benelli Lupo. . Hi Jim Im trying to click your links to the guns but its not working. DK. The narrow width put my eye behind the scope nicely but also leaves enough fudge factor for owners who will add an aftermarket cheek piece or wrap. Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. Sign of the times, Im sure you know what Im talking about. Price points on the ammo dont put them too far apart when searching on Ammoseek, usually within 5 bucks a box depending upon brand. Curious to hear your thoughts/experience with it. The reasonwhen Im going to kill an animal, I want to kill it stone deadone well-placed shot. I owned one and sold it. Jim, Instead of light gun oil, I wouldwipe gun with a rig rag. I think a majority of Americans know the old saying you just took a paragraph to explain. Im sold on the 7mm-08 for hunting but am having a hard time deciding/finding a decent rifle chambered in that caliber. I cant say I love the idea of a polymer sling mount with a relatively thin wall to it, but its definitely more out-of-the-way than a protruding stud. And all the great work you do! I have played with many of the rifles you have. People say its the most consistent action, but I only sort of agree. I think in theory controlled feed is better, but they also generally dont feed well (or at all) if you try to feed by dropping one in, rather than mag feeding. Thanks for the videos, they have been great! I really enjoy your reviews and opinions. Since recording the review of the Sig Cross, my copy of the gun did develop the issue with the safety where it doesnt quite go to the correct position. Its decent, but if you can possibly squeeze another $100 into your budget to get a version with Cerakote, get the CRKT version as itll be more durable in the woods. Ive been pouring over your channels videos, and a lot of Ron Spomers content (as well as a few others for the past months). My initial impression is that it is a pretty standard budget bolt gun. This gun is for actually hunting in adverse conditions and not worrying about scratching it or damage. A very solid four stars here for the Franchi Momentum bolt-action rifle. Those are cool, but very heavy guns. Man I really love your reviews! So how do you choose between them? Dumped lots of Deer, Black Bear and Moose with it. YOU SHOULD TEST THE SAKO S20 in 6.5 PRC OR THE SAKO BRANDS. You mentioned the seekins havoc, but not in detail. Seekins is another I looked into but judging by the lack of representation in reviews I\m not confident in it either. I wanted to get a Bolt Action rifle for hunting and also had always wanted an AR style rifle too. I have been looking for a carbon barrel rifle in a .308 due to ammo availability. The one I tested was in Badlands camo, and is probably the most common edition I see on store shelves. Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. It doesnt handle recoil well because of the stock design. I like the fact that you backed your reviews with a substantial reason for the review vs nothing to substantiate the review. I just purchased a Rival this week. I am stuck between the tikka t3x and the Bergara b14. Savage 110? Interested in loading this cartridge. Esp in 7mm-08. More velocity with the heavier bullets which by the way do not work so well in the 6.5 Creedmore. Gun #: 932303293. Yes, thats five rounds as always. Hi Jim love your content I was wondering if you had a chance to fire a Benelli lupo I own one and love it also have a Tikka tac t3x a Daniel Defense delta 5 pro a accuracy International at. Since Bergara use a Rem 700 barrel (action and trigger too?) Overall, the rifle is kinda heavy so itd be nice to reduce recoil a bit. And a nice walnut stock would have cost them a few more pennies to use. I have been looking at the 6.8 western. I purchased a Stockys carbon stock for my Vanguard 6.5 PRC Meateater rifle and was able to shoot a suppressed 5 shot group at 100 yards that measured under 1/2 moa. Bergara B14 Hunter? Do you think this is normal business practice ? I was in the market for an affordable hunting rifle this year and you helped me a lot and changed my mind on my first choice. Jim- Have you tested/reviewed any of the Sauer 100 rifles? I just have to say thank you I really appreciate your unbiased and honest opinions. Agreed on the MarkV. I have 13 riffles in calibers from 7mm08 , 270 ( my favorite caliber), 300H&H and 300 WM and 300WSM in Weatherby Mark V and Vanguard, Sako, Tika, Winchester model 70 pre 64 and new one, Kleingunther, Browning Xbolt, Browning medallion, BAR in 270 and 300 WM, 7mmMag in Weatherby Vanguard and Sako composite, Bennelli Lupo in 270. Its a good quality scope for shooting out to 300 yards but doesnt have adjustable turrets so if youll want to do some long-distance shooting, order it without a scope. Seller: Ammo And Arms. Moving back-to-front, things start out with a cushy rubber recoil pad. Great rifle. Can you review the spring kit for the factory trigger? The Vanguard does come in quite a few cartridges, but retail stores will only give them so many spots on the shelves, and since Weatherby is always pushing its own cartridges, its common to not find the chambering youre looking for without special ordering it. The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. Ive shot heavier .308s with more felt recoil than this guy. The Weatherby Vanguard Meateater edition comes with Cerakote, threaded barrel, stiff stock and a pretty decent 2 stage trigger. There are quality inexpensive rifles being made, but if you step up into the $500-$1,000 price range, almost every option will shoot accurately and have more consistent quality control. Or even at a much higher price range. Franchi Momentum 6.5 Creedmoor 24" Flat Dark Earth Bolt-Action Rifle 41512. As an Skandinavian hunter i must say we do have some different taste in rifles, and that is great. Thanks for the info , it will certainly help those with no interest in spending too much to have a good rifle. Im extremely satisfied with this rifle, for a hunting rifle. Heres a link to that rifle in .30-06. Same as you, I wish the offerings were a bit better. enough shoulder for secure mounting. If you are looking at that sub $1000 rifle check out the Bergara Wilderness Ridge (Mine was $850). To be clear, youll load the rifle from the top, pushing one round at a time down and into the internal magazine, and this function allows you to safely and easily unload the Momentum. Fnanchi is most likely the same design since they share ownership. The Bergara B14 Wilderness with adjustable cheek piece would be a great choice, as well as anything in the Bergara Premier Series. Cheers. Jim, after watching the review of your Rival I wanted you to know I had the same problems with mine. I\ve been perusing the site trying to find it as my rifle should be here today or tomorrow. You know, turning ammo into noise kind of use. I am really interested in a waypoint. I loved the way it shot and felt. Torn between CVA cascade or bergara b14 ridge in 7mm-08. Problem is , Im not sure it is practical to spend so much on a custom for some folks. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. You dont want fine wood and blued steel in the rain on a hunt. Im a big fan of Sig pistols and never had an issue with QC. I was pretty confident in the 110 Ultralight that I found locally for a hair under $1000 but your updates here are making me rethink that. Tikka T3X Compact Bolt-Action Rifle - Best .308 Lightweight Hunting Rifle. Mr. Harmer, I really appreciate your reviews on the Sig Cross and Waypoint. Also, what about the Bergara MG Lite with their proprietary carbon barrel? There are many rifles above the $2k price point. The Winchester Model 70 should be the rifle you compare all the others too. under 9 lb 7 mm or 300 w m. Jim, I know you are a fierce fan. The Elite Varmint, introduced last year, should readily . Ill keep one in mind next time Im in the market. I will be hunting suppressed from now on and want to keep my rifle as short as possible. What would you like to know? The Carbon Predator looks cool, but really just a slight variation on the 110 ultralite. All are captive so you wont lose them. Ill be using it in the Southern Rockies for context. Its actually a piece of cake. You havent included Winchester in your reviews. I\m relatively new to the channel & website, and it has quickly become a favorite of mine. Purchased an Sig Cross in 6.5 today. And like most of the rest of the world for that matter. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). It talks about every calibre Savage Arms is selling in Canada but dont talk about calibre I purchased. Franchi designs some very good scatter guns, and this is their first rifle attempt. $1,049.00. Any information is greatly appreciated. GSG, I always just hunted. What about the Winchester Model 70? As a matter of fact these days it usually sucks. If you want to hunt larger game like elk, then Id recommend getting the same rifle in .30-06 Springfield. Both have V block bedding blocks (But Ruger's are Y blocks for pillar bedding the action bolts.) We hunt in northern Utah. Love you work and your research is unparalleled. Im not the person I asked the question but I am also looking at one chambered and 308 and another shop down the road has a 30-06. I agree! Best known for making value-priced shotguns, Franchi may well have taken a leap of faith by entering the highly competitive centrefire market. Second is the on top the receiver scope mounts are based on Savage Accutrigger not Remington. Is there a far better option for the money? And yes, I did get the stainless barrel, but its cerrakoted, so reflection should be minimized. He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. Just remember one thing the price of the good older stuff keeps going up and up so when you waste your money on junk it never goes up in value as fast as the good stuff so when you do get around to buying something of quality you lost twice not once. Another group was slightly more evenly distributed but similar in size.
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